Joe Stack – Forum Reply By Family Friend

Just received this in an abovetopsecret reply to a thread I started there.


Hey guys. I know Joe’s wife through a family member. I can answer all of your questions.

Joe got word of the IRS disaster (well, this round of it) earlier in the week. He seemed to keep it to himself and then it appeared to eat at him as he got more and more angry as the days went by. On Wed, he pretty much blew up and got violent, causing Sheryl to leave with her daughter (his step-daughter). They went to a hotel for the night. Days before that, she changed her email address to a private host instead of sharing his mail server (she never explained why, just that it was “effective immediately”). Clearly, things were not going well at home.

I’m guessing the reason why the family wasn’t mentioned is that they’d been married about three years, he wasn’t really bonded with the girl, and he was upset with Sheryl leaving. He then turned that rage towards the IRS and boom.

The money goes deeper than you think, though. Yes, it’s an expensive house (and was a nice one), but it was also full of new furniture and that delicious grand piano for Sheryl to teach with (she ran lessons out of the home; that’s the undocumented income). The plane, he’s had that for years. He wouldn’t sell it because they used it practically every weekend to relax and be together. It had a lot of emotional value to them all.

So anyway, they were at the hotel overnight and in the morning she went home and found the house on fire. She went into a neighbor’s house while the firefighters did their job. That’s where the “and a neighbor saved her” or whatever BS came from. She was just ducking out to have a breakdown.

The “theft” of the plane was from journalists. Because there was no flight plan, some dip# presumed it was stolen, unaware of any situation were one might not need to be filed. So, it was his plane all along and the hangar was even in his name (and another fellow, unrelated to this incident).

So … what else? This is just a case of a good guy having too much crap happen to him. He’s no martyr and there’s no grand conspiracy.


The conflicting accounts of the house fire and plane crash should not be surprising to anyone since it is commonplace, especially in cases involving traumatic incidents, to find wildly divergent eyewitness reports. That these unfiltered versions get reported without corroboration is illustrative of the current state of what passes for journalism these days.

As for the pilot’s financial status, it is not at all unusual for a person to possess high value assets while, simultaneously, be on the verge of bankruptcy. If his debts far exceed the value of his assets, then he would be forced to file in order to protect at least some of what he owns.

There are many people who have found themselves in this kind of precarious situation through no fault of their own due to illness or being un/under-employed. I certainly have sympathy for them.

This coward tried to game the system and then, when he got caught, tried to paint himself as some altruistic patriot, willing to sacrifice himself for a greater good. In reality, he lacked the fortitude to fight the battle he started and, even worse, attempted to take others with him.

We are better off with him removed from the world. I hope other like-thinking individuals learn from Stack’s gutless deed. He is going to be remembered as a weak loser who took the easy way out.

If that’s how you want to be remembered, then by all means, go find a plane. If not, show some courage and face the music.


Now that makes sense and answers my questions.

For some reason I believe the guy.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • http://www.conspiracygrimoire.com William Thtuher

    I’ve been read your article on J. Stack yesterday and have read your comments in Above Top Secret.

    Coming across this post on your site today, it definitely confirms the ‘official story’. Of course it makes sense. Regardless of who wrote it, the fact that it appeared on your post, as opposed to on CNN, is an attempt to put your specific questioning to rest.

    But because of the anonymity of the poster – the fact that I could have written this and posted it up there (and maybe I did. . .), as well as anyone else with a vested interest in creating an ‘official story’ – it doesn’t convince me at all that this wasn’t a false-flag type event.

    mnemeth1 raised some interesting questions yesterday, questions that had several on Above Top Secret attacking the very fact that s/he asked them. That tells me they struck a nerve, at least with someone out there, and that this is a volatile issue.

    If there is a conspiracy behind this incident, and I am not presuming to know one way or another, then there would be an attempt to cover up, or quiet, questions that don’t play into the “official story”.

    I’m not saying this post is COINTEL PRO (although I’m definitely implying it!), but I am saying that after 9-11 we live in a society where we MUST question everything. Having an anonymous poster, post something on a conspiracy website, AFTER two heated exchanges with people who are definitely trying to quiet the questions, should only make us wonder more.

    Did s/he send you a personal message with his contact info and other proof that s/he is who s/he says s/he is? If so, I stand corrected. If not, I stand in the face of those that would believe offical story and ask the questions that you asked yesterday until they were adequately answered.

    Thanks for all the work you’ve put into this.

    Bliss. Thuth.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Michael Suede

    I don’t need proof of the posters authenticity because what he said will eventually be vetted by the press in the coming weeks.

    If it turns out that he’s full of crap on any of his points, I’ll swing back into full blown conspiracy mode.

    But for now, his statement makes rational sense of all the conflicting reports.

    If it turns out he’s lying, eventually we will find out about it.

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • Jim Parnold

    the earlier post by the person who knew the wife and family may be able to help answer this question. The papers claim that Mrs. Stack was a member of a religous “cult.” And that her family rescured her from it. What religious groups was she once affiliated with? One man’s cult is another person’s church.

    Thank You,

    Jim

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • http://ConspiracyGrimoire William Thuther

    Michael,

    Fair enough. I’m sure you noticed the post after this mentioning this guy had just registered for ATS that day.

    LOL. I guess I just exist in full conspiracy mode all the time.

    The fact that it was said not to be terrorism, leads me to think it actually was. A lone guy with a grudge against the government who decides flying a plane into a building is the best way to get his story noticed. It reminds me of Charles Bishop (Bishara) who flew his plane into the Tampa BofA building.

    Thanks for all the work on this.

    Keep fighting the good fight.

    Thuth.

  • Dale

    I hope this will make the rest of America hear the big pop. The big pop is when your head comes out. Our government because of the Federal Reserve and the IRS, is taking over this country, and will never have to fire a shot. Now they are using our bail out money to foreclose on the homes of the people they put out of work. WAKE UP AMERICA.

    Look at the whole ploy. All planned buy the banksters. Crash wall street with securitized mortgages, crash the system, steal all of the retirement funds, crash the job market putting millions out of work, and then get a taxpayer bailout so they can and are taking all of the property back with illegal foreclosures. They are now running into a problem in the mortgage industry. Courts are finally ruling for us because their own scam is biting them in the ass with the MERS Mortgages. If the honest judges will just stay honest. Our problem is not the government. It is the Federal Reserve (That private corporation). The IRS is not government, they are a collection agency for the Federal Reserve. Get rid of one and the other is gone with it, and then there will be no one to pull the strings of our puppet politicians. We can win, but unless some judges and lawyers get honest it will not be able to be done without violence. He couldn’t win against the IRS because to only way you have to fight them is in the US Court of Claims in Washington. Very people know that. You have to Represent YOURSELF defendant as Yourself Plaintiff and living human being. Federal District Courts will throw any case against the IRS out (jurisdiction), and if you get too good, they get you for practicing law without a license. Obama is just another puppet politician in the banksters huge scheme. Race is not the issue. The Federal Reserve, crooked lawyers and politicians, and an America that thinks big brother is always right, when they are usually always wrong is the real issue. This guy gave this country a wake up call, and was not an idiot, but very well educated, and like most of us is tired of the government robbing from the middle class and giving to the rich. Study some of their law. It is a game of smoke and mirrors meant specifically to deceive you. You must understand, lawyers know the law, but to beat them at their own game and win, you have to know your way around or out of the law, then you can win any fight against them. They will leave you alone. Since this wake up call, I am in with America anyway I can help get rid of the crooks in D.C. I hope the young understand that they are going to have to stand up and fight, or eventually they will rape an pilfer every thing from you even your families.

  • Dale

    I hope this will make the rest of America hear the big pop. The big pop is when your head comes out. Our government because of the Federal Reserve and the IRS, is taking over this country, and will never have to fire a shot. Now they are using our bail out money to foreclose on the homes of the people they put out of work. WAKE UP AMERICA.

    Look at the whole ploy. All planned buy the banksters. Crash wall street with securitized mortgages, crash the system, steal all of the retirement funds, crash the job market putting millions out of work, and then get a taxpayer bailout so they can and are taking all of the property back with illegal foreclosures. They are now running into a problem in the mortgage industry. Courts are finally ruling for us because their own scam is biting them in the ass with the MERS Mortgages. If the honest judges will just stay honest. Our problem is not the government. It is the Federal Reserve (That private corporation). The IRS is not government, they are a collection agency for the Federal Reserve. Get rid of one and the other is gone with it, and then there will be no one to pull the strings of our puppet politicians. We can win, but unless some judges and lawyers get honest it will not be able to be done without violence. He couldn’t win against the IRS because to only way you have to fight them is in the US Court of Claims in Washington. Very people know that. You have to Represent YOURSELF defendant as Yourself Plaintiff and living human being. Federal District Courts will throw any case against the IRS out (jurisdiction), and if you get too good, they get you for practicing law without a license. Obama is just another puppet politician in the banksters huge scheme. Race is not the issue. The Federal Reserve, crooked lawyers and politicians, and an America that thinks big brother is always right, when they are usually always wrong is the real issue. This guy gave this country a wake up call, and was not an idiot, but very well educated, and like most of us is tired of the government robbing from the middle class and giving to the rich. Study some of their law. It is a game of smoke and mirrors meant specifically to deceive you. You must understand, lawyers know the law, but to beat them at their own game and win, you have to know your way around or out of the law, then you can win any fight against them. They will leave you alone. Since this wake up call, I am in with America anyway I can help get rid of the crooks in D.C. I hope the young understand that they are going to have to stand up and fight, or eventually they will rape an pilfer every thing from you even your families.

  • Dale

    I hope this will make the rest of America hear the big pop. The big pop is when your head comes out. Our government because of the Federal Reserve and the IRS, is taking over this country, and will never have to fire a shot. Now they are using our bail out money to foreclose on the homes of the people they put out of work. WAKE UP AMERICA.

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    Look at the whole ploy. All planned buy the banksters. Crash wall street with securitized mortgages, crash the system, steal all of the retirement funds, crash the job market putting millions out of work, and then get a taxpayer bailout so they can and are taking all of the property back with illegal foreclosures. They are now running into a problem in the mortgage industry. Courts are finally ruling for us because their own scam is biting them in the ass with the MERS Mortgages. If the honest judges will just stay honest. Our problem is not the government. It is the Federal Reserve (That private corporation). The IRS is not government, they are a collection agency for the Federal Reserve. Get rid of one and the other is gone with it, and then there will be no one to pull the strings of our puppet politicians. We can win, but unless some judges and lawyers get honest it will not be able to be done without violence. He couldn’t win against the IRS because to only way you have to fight them is in the US Court of Claims in Washington. Very people know that. You have to Represent YOURSELF defendant as Yourself Plaintiff and living human being. Federal District Courts will throw any case against the IRS out (jurisdiction), and if you get too good, they get you for practicing law without a license. Obama is just another puppet politician in the banksters huge scheme. Race is not the issue. The Federal Reserve, crooked lawyers and politicians, and an America that thinks big brother is always right, when they are usually always wrong is the real issue. This guy gave this country a wake up call, and was not an idiot, but very well educated, and like most of us is tired of the government robbing from the middle class and giving to the rich. Study some of their law. It is a game of smoke and mirrors meant specifically to deceive you. You must understand, lawyers know the law, but to beat them at their own game and win, you have to know your way around or out of the law, then you can win any fight against them. They will leave you alone. Since this wake up call, I am in with America anyway I can help get rid of the crooks in D.C. I hope the young understand that they are going to have to stand up and fight, or eventually they will rape an pilfer every thing from you even your families.

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