If We Never Fought A Civil War

Before I begin, it’s important we cover a few facts:

-Confederate General Robert E. Lee was an abolitionist. Lee called slavery “a moral and political evil.” He also said “the best men in the South” opposed it and welcomed its demise.

-President Abraham Lincoln wanted to send the slaves back to Africa and was a racist bigot. He frequently used the “N” word and made disparaging remarks about blacks.

-Confederate General Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson was also an abolitionist. While his family had slaves, they were basically treated like hired workers. Jackson said he wished to see “the shackles struck from every slave.”

-Union General Ulysses S. Grant and his wife held personal slaves before and during the War Between the States. Grant’s excuse for not freeing his slaves was that “good help is so hard to come by these days.”

-Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation did not free the slaves of the North. They were not freed until the Thirteenth Amendment was passed after the conclusion of the war. (Think about that – the ‘union’ did not abolish slavery until AFTER the war.)

-Lincoln supported the Fugitive Slave Act and “Black Laws” that were designed to strip the rights of black people.

-Battlefield letters compiled of Confederate troops show that almost all of them were fighting because they felt the federal government was violating their state’s rights in numerous ways. The institution of slavery itself is almost never mentioned. The federal government had aggressed against the South in numerous ways unrelated to the slavery issue.

-Lincoln provoked the attack on Sumter by sending a hostile fleet there as ‘reinforcements’ and his generals positioned themselves in a threatening stance.

Tulane University’s site on the attack states:

Stephens identified the beginning of the war as Lincoln’s order sending a “hostile fleet, styled the ‘Relief Squadron’,” to reinforce Fort Sumter. “The war was then and there inaugurated and begun by the authorities at Washington. General Beauregard did not open fire upon Fort Sumter until this fleet was, to his knowledge, very near the harbor of Charleston, and until he had inquired of Major Anderson . . . whether he would engage to take no part in the expected blow, then coming down upon him from the approaching fleet . . . When Major Anderson . . .would make no such promise, it became necessary for General Beauregard to strike the first blow, as he did; otherwise the forces under his command might have been exposed to two fires at the same time– one in front, and the other in the rear.” The use of force by the Confederacy , therefore, was in “self-defence,” rendered necessary by the actions of the other side.

~700,000 Americans died fighting the Civil War.

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Now, the question is would slavery have gone away in the South without a civil war?

Of course it would have. Every other nation on the planet ended slavery without firing a shot. The South would have become a pariah among nations to the point where external pressure would have forced them to abolish it.

Further, if the North would have repealed the fugitive slave acts and fully abolished slavery (which they didn’t do before the war), slavery in the south would have become unprofitable because slaves would have fled to the north in large numbers. This very situation is what caused slavery to collapse in Africa.

So we can say that today, the south would be slave free.

Would the US have entered into WWI if the south had not been occupied by northern aggressors?

I think its entirely debatable that neither the north nor the south would have involved themselves in WWI.

If the US had not involved itself in WWI – would Hitler have come to power? Highly unlikely. The Germans wouldn’t have been oppressed to the point that made Hitler’s rise possible.

In fact it’s very likely that the north wining the US Civil War has resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of people due to the repercussions of nationalist statism that resulted. Is it better that 700,00 Americans were killed and potentially tens of millions more were killed or is it better that we fought a violent war that brought about an end to slavery and state sovereignty?

For a real history of the US Civil War that isn’t taught by a communist indoctrinator that holds up a racist statist bigot as the second coming of the Christ, look here:

The Lincoln Memorial in Washington is a slap in the face to blacks. We put a racist bigot mass murder up on a pedestal and then have our public school indoctrinators tell the black kids they should hold this man up as a hero.

It’s a sick joke.

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln

He didn’t give a crap about slavery.

He cared about maintaining political power over the south.

He was looting them through tariffs and wanted to keep looting them.

Southern secession meant the criminal Lincoln lost tax loot for his cronies and himself.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • Jimmy

    “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…what I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union” -Abraham Lincoln
    What should have been taught in elementary school I did not happen across until college. I had to look for it; it wasn’t assigned.

  • thelogicman

    This is the worst propaganda i have ever seen…….if you’re gonna brainwash people then at least make it believable. You dis Lincoln and Grant and then act like the Confederates were good loving people which any moron knows isn’t true…..and that war was created for profit. The Confederates wanted cheap labor and didn’t want to pay taxes so they succeeded from the United States to start a free/slave labor country……

    • http://www.libertariannews.org/ Michael Suede

      So let’s say the Confederates are all just terrible people, does that change any of the points I make?

      No.

      So why cry about it?

      Do you agree that slavery would have ended in the South if there had been no war?

      Do you agree that not fighting the Civil War would have meant millions of lives being saved from an early death?