US Launches Second "Secret Missile" In As Many Days

This is the second totally off-the-books missile launch reported in as many days.

Let me say that again.

This was THE SECOND secret missile launch in as many days.

CBS News reports:

(CBS) A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS’s cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.

I’d like to point out that the news helicopter camera that captures the video of the launch picked up something I consider to be unusual.

Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge. The rocket glows greenish blue just before the video ends. I’m not sure what this means, I just found it to be unusual. I also found it unusual for the video to be cut off so abruptly right as this occurs.

They only show a few seconds of the rocket in flight. I assume they have much more video of it than that.

Here’s a link to a thread about the other launch.

Update: Karl Denninger muses whether the missile was even an American one:

What if this wasn’t one of ours?
Who else has this capability?  China?  Russia?  Is this some sort of warning to Obama and/or Bernanke?

Where was it launched from?
Sea-launched, as near as we can tell – but surface or submarine? Given the commercial and recreational vessel traffic in that area, if this was ship-launched someone should have seen the launching vessel.  Now, more than 12 hours later, there are no reports of anyone having it on radar. Note that private vessel radars are quite-capable of resolving a ship large enough to launch something like this from the distance to the horizon.  My ship’s radar was quite-capable of resolving a vessel of this size if low to the water in the 10-12 mile range (curvature of the earth) and if the vessel had significant superstructure above the water, even further. If this thing was submarinelaunched then it gets even more interesting.

Why the silence?
I find it very unlikely this was one of ours – unless it was a mistake.  An intentional launch – even of a missile with a dummy “warhead” – this close to LA?  No way.  A malfunction could have sent that thing right into downtown before it could be destroyed, and even unarmed it would do a hell of a lot of damage.  For this reason I do not believe this was an intentional US test.

Where were the NOTAMs if this was ours?
Missing, that’s where.  Multiple reports now that there were NO notices posted for aviators.  No way in hell our military intentionally launches a missile without posting NOTAMs for the civilian air system before it happens.  This means it either wasn’t ours, or wasn’t intentionally launched.

Where are the people who heard the notices on VHF Marine Radios and others?
I live less than 5 miles from Eglin AFB.  They run military exercises all the time out in the gulf.  I boat in the gulf.  There are not only NOTAMs posted all the time on their activity, but there are also notices posted for mariners when they intend to do things out in the deep blue sea.  The military comes up on VHF regularly and announces their intentions – and if you get too close by accident they are rather explicit in their warnings to you as well. I have heard these warnings and notices dozens of times.  The point is this: if this was a military exercise there would be hundreds if not thousands of mariners who would have heard about it, and it would have been pointed out by now in the media.

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Intelligence analyst Wayne Madsen concurs with Fascist Soups assessment of the situation here:

There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.

Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a  JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.

Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.

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More theory:

Update, I was linked this video about the Club K container launched missile system.  If this is indeed what was fired off the CA coast the other night, it very well could be a CHINESE response to the first missile launch that took place out of Scottsdale the other day.

China saw the first launch as posturing and fired their own missile off the coast of CA in response.

I ask the readers of this blog to spread this information around the net on message boards, comment sections, and email it to news outlets.   People need to be made aware of what is going on.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • MJ

    “Right at the very end of the launch video, you can see what appears to be possibly an electrical plasma discharge”

    Could this cause an EMP?

    • http://fascistsoup.com/ Michael Suede

      All electrical discharges cause EMPs, it is the scale of the discharge that matters.

      You need something on the scale of a nuclear blast to do any real damage over a wide area.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.

  • General Lee99

    First of all, it very well could have been or likely was one of ours. I witnessed a launch from inland (Glendale, AZ) on Friday, November 5th. Virtually identical. and I have pictures. So, for the author’s theory that it is unlikely that we would launch such a provocation, you are sadly mistaken. Unless the Iranians have a intergalactic spy ring operating from within the confines of Luke AFB, the launch point of the object I saw.