Comments on: Rebuttal: Abolishing ‘Corporate Personhood’

By: AtheistNavyVet

AtheistNavyVet — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:06:00 +0000

contracts= common law… one way to take down the fascist corporations is to make a tort claim that has not been legislated out of existence

By: AtheistNavyVet

AtheistNavyVet — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:05:00 +0000

The difference between COMMON LAW and corporate legislation IS THAT CONTRACTS HAVE PEOPLE PROMISING IN CONSIDERATION WHILE corporations are simply FASCISM in action @MoveToAmend http://www.movetoamend.org 843-926-1750 @LarryAccomplish

By: AtheistNavyVet

AtheistNavyVet — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:03:00 +0000

People North and West only see the buildings or the railroads or their houses that they think they own. Here in Charleston, the law & the scene is abundantly clear to see…. We the people are the slaves and the owners are corporation tax exempt plantations that give obscene profits with enough left over to bribe the politicians that keep telling the lies so “cyber voters” only see RED @LarryAccomplish 843-926-1750 Larry_Carter_Center@yahoo.com

By: AtheistNavyVet

AtheistNavyVet — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:52:00 +0000

Agreed below, the so called Libertarian has narrowly focused on one corporate person hood issue as if that is the only problem…. corporate greed exceeds most corporation’s by-laws, charters and purpose for being…. CORPORATIONS are not people. Corporations claim FAR MORE RIGHTS THAN most people even try to learn…843-926-1750 WHEN ELECTED TO CONGRESS MAY 7TH, I shall vote the @MoveToAmend language that MONEY IS NOT SPEECH putting an end to corporations bribing politicians and bribing voters @LarryAccomplish Larry_Carter_Center@yahoo.com Vote Green Larry for 25 million green union living wage jobs out of war NDAA 880 billion$ and sell off military assets to NATO BRING HOME ALL TROOPS TO DEFEND OUR REAL BORDERS, DEPORT CRIMINALS & PROTECT & REWARD SAFE FOOD WORKERS

By: Len Hart

Len Hart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:07:00 +0000

Your assignment: look up the case law re: BURDEN OF PROOF!

CLUE: if you believe that mere legal abstractions are living, breathing persons, then prove it! Give me the pulse rate of Enron as it was in the midst of collapse. Give me the pule rate of Halliburton when IT reports its undeserved profits to stockholders —all of which are REAL, living, breathing individuals human beings if somewhat crooked for putting money into Halliburton stock!

Simply –if you believe corporations are persons, PROVE IT! Show me one corporation that has become pregnant by having copulated with another corporation and, ultimately, given birth to a little toddler corporation! How cute!!!

By: Len Hart

Len Hart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:02:00 +0000

Clue: REAL PEOPLE are ‘real physical persons’ by DEFINITION! SCOTUS absurdly assumes the power of an all-powerful deity when it PRESUMES to make of mere legal abstractions a PERSON! CLUE: definitions matter!!! And that goes for an arrogant court to presumes to assume either the power of millions of years of evolution, or –if you are religious —the awesome power of GOD!

By: Len Hart

Len Hart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:02:00 +0000

I did more than express my discontent with this view! I UTTERLY refute it.

By: Len Hart

Len Hart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:59:00 +0000

Starchild, that’s another FALSE ANALOGY! Search warrants are issued if probable cause exists that an INDIVIDUAL has committed a crime. When ENRON was found to have been breaking all kinds of crimes, the specifics were alleged to have been committed by INDIVIDUALS. Enron fell but not because IT —as if it had been a person –were charged and tried.

By: Len Hart

Len Hart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:53:00 +0000

In the instances of which you speak occur, it is INDIVIDUAL PERSONS who serve the hard time when found guilty. You indulged a FALSE ANALOGY. I’ve covered more trials of ‘corporate crooks’ than of ‘individuals’! But –I digress. The point is: if “Libertarians” have swallowed the propaganda that a ‘collective’ (corporations) are persons then I strongly suggest that they enroll immediately in whatever remedial biology course they might be able to find. A CORPORATION is a ‘collective’ made up of many members –some are shareholders, some may be employees. It is a LEGAL ABSTRACTION not unlike those which were described by Saint Thomas. He called them –not people –but “CONSPIRACIES” of rich men to ‘procure their commodities in the name and title of the commonwealth”! More was correct! Modern libertarians are not merely wrong but wrong-headed if they should believe that mere words on papers, words bestowing PRIVILEGES upon a ‘collective organization’ are ‘real people’. I suggest several college level courses: 1) BIOLOGY: learn that ‘people’ are biological organisms; corporations are NOT and never will be; 2) Each real person has an ‘organic’ brain and is most certainly conscious. No mere contract, no mere draft of by-laws –either with other companies or with the state –possess the DEFINING characteristics of organic organisms called people. Again –a PERSON –is an organic organism; a ‘corporation’ is mere words on paper, at best, a contract binding upon its creators. Secondly, if you wish to get religious about this: ‘real people’ are believed by religious people to have been created by God! Corporations –significantly –are NOT believed by any sane person to have been created by anything other than that entity that is best described by Saint Thomas More as a ‘…conspiracy of rich men to procure their commodities in the name and title of the commonwealth”. Libertarians and anyone believing the utterly psychotic idea that corporations are people should check themselves in and get serious psychological help! Failing that –take a first semester Philosophy course at any major university. Failing that –get counseling. Believing that ‘words on paper’ are people may very well be psychotic.

By: Starchild

Starchild — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 04:56:00 +0000

Does this mean that government should be able to conduct a search of your company’s offices without a warrant, or quarter troops there without the company’s consent, since (according to you) the Third and Fourth amendment protections against quartering troops and unreasonable searches and seizures do not cover corporations?