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	<title>Comments on: The Slippery Higgs Boson and Statists</title>
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	<description>Hate The State</description>
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		<title>By: sjastro</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11079</link>
		<dc:creator>sjastro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest you go back and read the Wiki article more carefully or better still click on the Galaxy rotation curve link in the article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curves 


You&#039;ll find the mainstream theory is based around Kepler&#039;s laws and Newtonian mechanics not GR. GR is a very difficult theory to work with for 2 body problems or greater. 


In fact GR is used to theorize rotation curves of stars in galaxies but is NON MAINSTREAM. The model attempts to use GR, (like MOND) to explain the rotation curves without the need of dark matter.


This is in complete contrast with your &quot;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you go back and read the Wiki article more carefully or better still click on the Galaxy rotation curve link in the article.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curves" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_rotation_curves</a> </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find the mainstream theory is based around Kepler&#8217;s laws and Newtonian mechanics not GR. GR is a very difficult theory to work with for 2 body problems or greater. </p>
<p>In fact GR is used to theorize rotation curves of stars in galaxies but is NON MAINSTREAM. The model attempts to use GR, (like MOND) to explain the rotation curves without the need of dark matter.</p>
<p>This is in complete contrast with your &#8220;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Suede</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11074</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Suede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok.


Then go change this wiki article and cite your sources:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter 



&quot;Instead, its existence and properties are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, radiation, and the large scale structure of the universe. Dark matter is estimated to constitute 84% of the matter in the universe and 23% of the mass-energy.[2]
Dark matter came to the attention of astrophysicists due to discrepancies between the mass of large astronomical objects determined from their gravitational effects, and mass calculated from the &quot;luminous matter&quot; they contain; such as stars, gas and dust. It was first postulated by Jan Oort in 1932 to account for the orbital velocities of stars in theMilky Way and Fritz Zwicky in 1933 to account for evidence of &quot;missing mass&quot; in the orbital velocities of galaxies inclusters. &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.</p>
<p>Then go change this wiki article and cite your sources:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter</a> </p>
<p>&#8220;Instead, its existence and properties are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, radiation, and the large scale structure of the universe. Dark matter is estimated to constitute 84% of the matter in the universe and 23% of the mass-energy.[2]<br />
Dark matter came to the attention of astrophysicists due to discrepancies between the mass of large astronomical objects determined from their gravitational effects, and mass calculated from the &#8220;luminous matter&#8221; they contain; such as stars, gas and dust. It was first postulated by Jan Oort in 1932 to account for the orbital velocities of stars in theMilky Way and Fritz Zwicky in 1933 to account for evidence of &#8220;missing mass&#8221; in the orbital velocities of galaxies inclusters. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: herro</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11068</link>
		<dc:creator>herro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said this &quot;
 If dark matter does not exist, then the standard model is off in its predictions by an astounding amount. &quot;

Which is wrong because our understanding of gravity could be the culprit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said this &#8221;<br />
 If dark matter does not exist, then the standard model is off in its predictions by an astounding amount. &#8221;</p>
<p>Which is wrong because our understanding of gravity could be the culprit.</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11067</link>
		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s really more of a case of you not knowing how the scientific process works so you&#039;re using a record amount of confirmation bias to say you&#039;re right even though you&#039;ve got a few hundred people calling you out in every way possible.

To put it into terms you will easily understand: you&#039;re asking for an extra-terrestrial corpse when we&#039;re only slowly finding out that there might just be life on Mars but saying everyone is wrong because we can&#039;t give you a corpse of a little grey man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really more of a case of you not knowing how the scientific process works so you&#8217;re using a record amount of confirmation bias to say you&#8217;re right even though you&#8217;ve got a few hundred people calling you out in every way possible.</p>
<p>To put it into terms you will easily understand: you&#8217;re asking for an extra-terrestrial corpse when we&#8217;re only slowly finding out that there might just be life on Mars but saying everyone is wrong because we can&#8217;t give you a corpse of a little grey man.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11065</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize changing models in physics is the equivalent of changing lines of code in a program to get rid of bugs, right? The models can change all they want, the fundamentals always remain the same.


You also seem to not know what a theory is. If a theory is consistently proven untrue and cannot accurately predict any real outcome, it&#039;s not a theory. At all. A scientific theory is very different from the general definition of a theory.


And glossing over your articles is a given since that&#039;s exactly how the scientific process works. They observed some unexpected things so they will reserve final judgements until the tests are repeated over and over to eliminate false positives and extraneous factors. By using it as some sort of proof, you&#039;re literally doing it wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize changing models in physics is the equivalent of changing lines of code in a program to get rid of bugs, right? The models can change all they want, the fundamentals always remain the same.</p>
<p>You also seem to not know what a theory is. If a theory is consistently proven untrue and cannot accurately predict any real outcome, it&#8217;s not a theory. At all. A scientific theory is very different from the general definition of a theory.</p>
<p>And glossing over your articles is a given since that&#8217;s exactly how the scientific process works. They observed some unexpected things so they will reserve final judgements until the tests are repeated over and over to eliminate false positives and extraneous factors. By using it as some sort of proof, you&#8217;re literally doing it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Riber Pitt</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11064</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Riber Pitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is so bad, I can&#039;t help but laugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is so bad, I can&#8217;t help but laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: sjastro</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11063</link>
		<dc:creator>sjastro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Actually, it shows how little you know. The CDMS project and the Xenon experiment have returned nothing. Simply pointing out at the stars and saying &quot;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&quot; is not proof of anything other than the fact that GR is a miserable failure. &quot;


What profound ignorance. 
The rotational velocities are not even modelled on GR. The most common model is based on Keplers laws. The missing dark matter is calculated using the Virial theorem which is an extension of Newtonian physics.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, it shows how little you know. The CDMS project and the Xenon experiment have returned nothing. Simply pointing out at the stars and saying &#8220;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&#8221; is not proof of anything other than the fact that GR is a miserable failure. &#8221;</p>
<p>What profound ignorance.<br />
The rotational velocities are not even modelled on GR. The most common model is based on Keplers laws. The missing dark matter is calculated using the Virial theorem which is an extension of Newtonian physics.</p>
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		<title>By: The Church of the Higgs Boson: Hallelujah He is Risen! &#124; unlearning the problem</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11062</link>
		<dc:creator>The Church of the Higgs Boson: Hallelujah He is Risen! &#124; unlearning the problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: everyone.</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11061</link>
		<dc:creator>everyone.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 04:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is really bad. I can only hope your readers are intelligent enough to entirely dismiss it and move onto another article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is really bad. I can only hope your readers are intelligent enough to entirely dismiss it and move onto another article.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Suede</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/05/the-slippery-higgs-boson-and-statists/#comment-11060</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Suede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;but I hope you trust in the extremely intelligent and educated physicists who have developed this theory. &quot;


Sorry, I don&#039;t.  They are not constrained by market forces. There is no reason to believe them over other highly accredited, very intelligent individuals.  There is no benefit to humanity that will be realized by their pronouncements.  People will not live longer.  People will not live better.  People will not be more comfortable after spending billions on this problem.


&quot;yes, right now we do not have the knowledge or technology to detect it,&quot;


Nice of you to acknowledge this.  But then you go on to say:


&quot;Saying dark matter is &quot;invisible and undetectable&quot; is seriously showing how little you know about science&quot;


Actually, it shows how little you know.  The CDMS project and the Xenon experiment have returned nothing.  Simply pointing out at the stars and saying &quot;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&quot; is not proof of anything other than the fact that GR is a miserable failure.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I hope you trust in the extremely intelligent and educated physicists who have developed this theory. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t.  They are not constrained by market forces. There is no reason to believe them over other highly accredited, very intelligent individuals.  There is no benefit to humanity that will be realized by their pronouncements.  People will not live longer.  People will not live better.  People will not be more comfortable after spending billions on this problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;yes, right now we do not have the knowledge or technology to detect it,&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice of you to acknowledge this.  But then you go on to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Saying dark matter is &#8220;invisible and undetectable&#8221; is seriously showing how little you know about science&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, it shows how little you know.  The CDMS project and the Xenon experiment have returned nothing.  Simply pointing out at the stars and saying &#8220;GR cannot account for rotational velocities based on observed mass; therefore, dark matter must exist&#8221; is not proof of anything other than the fact that GR is a miserable failure.</p>
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