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	<title>Comments on: The State Is A Tragedy Of The Commons</title>
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	<description>Hate The State</description>
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		<title>By: Articles to Begin Labor Day Weekend &#187; Scott Lazarowitz&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11290</link>
		<dc:creator>Articles to Begin Labor Day Weekend &#187; Scott Lazarowitz&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Michael Suede: The State Is a Tragedy of the Commons  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Justin Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11154</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot on. Corrupted democracies are worse than corrupt monarchies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. Corrupted democracies are worse than corrupt monarchies.</p>
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		<title>By: plenarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11150</link>
		<dc:creator>plenarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And we hear phrases like, &quot;We&#039;re fighting for democracy!&quot; or &quot;We need to spread democracy!&quot; I wonder if people would have the same attachment to &quot;We&#039;re fighting for the aristocrats!&quot; Or &quot;We need to spread oligarchy!&quot; Just doesn&#039;t have the same ring and yet that&#039;s what these people are really saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we hear phrases like, &#8220;We&#8217;re fighting for democracy!&#8221; or &#8220;We need to spread democracy!&#8221; I wonder if people would have the same attachment to &#8220;We&#8217;re fighting for the aristocrats!&#8221; Or &#8220;We need to spread oligarchy!&#8221; Just doesn&#8217;t have the same ring and yet that&#8217;s what these people are really saying.</p>
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		<title>By: plenarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11149</link>
		<dc:creator>plenarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thoughts. It&#039;s just that you&#039;re not really referring to democracy.


There are no democracies in the world. There hasn&#039;t been a democracy since the time of Aristotle. Democracy meant to the Greeks that &quot;the people rule.&quot; They meant that literally. All public offices (except for their generals) were held by citizens chosen randomly by lot; not by election. Imagine the President, Supreme Court, and Congress all chosen from the citizenry by lot... That would be democratic. What we have are republics (actually fascist oligarchies) and not a hint of democracy anywhere in sight.


Democracy is often described as mob rule or &quot;two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch&quot; but that&#039;s what the aristocrats want us to believe. The Greeks called that ochlocracy (mob rule or majority rule). What democracy really did was put power in the hands of ordinary people and the aristocrats couldn&#039;t have that of course. So they either demonize it (starting with Plato) or slap it in front of &quot;republic&quot; and let us rubes vote all the while controlling who gets to run and who counts the votes... I quit using the word &quot;democracy&quot; completely (unless referring to Athenian democracy) once I realized I was just playing their fool.


The last thing the political class and aristocrats want is to lose power, thus they reinvented &quot;democracy&quot; for propaganda purposes... but what we&#039;ve got is really just another brand of oligarchy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts. It&#8217;s just that you&#8217;re not really referring to democracy.</p>
<p>There are no democracies in the world. There hasn&#8217;t been a democracy since the time of Aristotle. Democracy meant to the Greeks that &#8220;the people rule.&#8221; They meant that literally. All public offices (except for their generals) were held by citizens chosen randomly by lot; not by election. Imagine the President, Supreme Court, and Congress all chosen from the citizenry by lot&#8230; That would be democratic. What we have are republics (actually fascist oligarchies) and not a hint of democracy anywhere in sight.</p>
<p>Democracy is often described as mob rule or &#8220;two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch&#8221; but that&#8217;s what the aristocrats want us to believe. The Greeks called that ochlocracy (mob rule or majority rule). What democracy really did was put power in the hands of ordinary people and the aristocrats couldn&#8217;t have that of course. So they either demonize it (starting with Plato) or slap it in front of &#8220;republic&#8221; and let us rubes vote all the while controlling who gets to run and who counts the votes&#8230; I quit using the word &#8220;democracy&#8221; completely (unless referring to Athenian democracy) once I realized I was just playing their fool.</p>
<p>The last thing the political class and aristocrats want is to lose power, thus they reinvented &#8220;democracy&#8221; for propaganda purposes&#8230; but what we&#8217;ve got is really just another brand of oligarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wyss</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11101</link>
		<dc:creator>James Wyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.Brilliant. I will remember this for Policy Mic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.Brilliant. I will remember this for Policy Mic.</p>
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		<title>By: roycat</title>
		<link>http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/07/15/the-state-is-a-tragedy-of-the-commons-3/#comment-11099</link>
		<dc:creator>roycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: theCL Report: Adrift On A Sea Of Delusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>theCL Report: Adrift On A Sea Of Delusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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