Fox News is reporting that the pilot involved in the plane crash in Austin, Texas, had deliberately targeted the IRS. “An NTSB official told Fox News that they are investigating this as an intentional act, and said it appears the pilot set his own house on fire and then got in his plane and flew it into the building,” reports Fox. The IRS has an office in the building.
Infowars has dispatched a team to the scene. Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com will report updates as they are received.
Image, Fox News
Fox News reports:
“It was flying low and fast and I did a double take,” Newberg said, according to the Web site.
“I thought it was a play remote control plane. Then I saw the smoke.”
He told the paper he thought the plane seemed “very controlled.”
Reportedly, 2 people are unaccounted for, 2 taken to the hospital, and several “walking wounded”.
I don’t wish harm on anyone. However when you take a position as an active oppressor of the people, you should be prepared for some backlash.
I’m not sure what this is all about. For all I know this could be a stunt to garner sympathy for the treasonous quasi-private corporation known as the IRS. We’ll see how the media plays this one out. More information is needed to determine if this was simply a fed up citizen or a government coordinated stunt.
The act of flying a plane into a building alone raises my eyebrows on this one. It’s a bit coincidental that this happened just after Glenn Beck’s 9/11 ambush on Medina. It’s also a bit coincidental that it took place in Austin Texas, where the Medina is running for the office of Governor.
I don’t like it.
If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
On the obscure website embeddedart.com, the author (Joe Stack) notes today’s date at the end of the message.
Business Insider notes companies Stack says he worked for.
Oddities I notice:
How did anyone find out who the pilot was so quickly? – and how did the media find his obscure web site rant so quickly?
Then there’s this weirdness, how do you get stories this conflicting?
A neighbor rescued his wife, classical pianist Sheryl Housh Stack, a teaching assistant at the University of Texas, and her 12-year-old daughter, Margaux, according to KXAN-TV.
Other reports said the wife and daughter arrived home after spending the night in a hotel to find the house burning.
This is an image of the original rant web page header code:
The page is a MS Word document saved in HTML format. I was able to open the page and keep it open before the FBI had it taken down.
Creation date is 2010-02-16T19:2400Z
Last save is 2010-02-18T06:42:00Z
Word saves the timestamps from zulu (mean) time, not local time.
06:42:00 Thursday February 18, 2010 in GMT converts to
00:42:00 Thursday February 18, 2010 in US/Central
27 revisions, 3 pages, 2676 words, author Joe Stack, totalTime 1848
Embedded Art is a small independent software house, specializing in process control and automation. In its current form it represents the culmination of 20 years of experience in the software development consulting business. Founded by Joe Stack in 1983 (under the name of Prowess Engineering) in Southern California, the company thrived for 15 years until shifting focus to the Sacramento area to take advantage of growth in the Silicon Valley.
20 years from 1983 = 2003
Web site Last modified: May 28, 2005, meaning he didn’t update his date statements.
Its also odd that all of his pages contain the same “last modified:” timestamp. The source code of the cached Google pages does not appear to be created by an editor, if it was, it was a really clean and simple one. The rant is a microsoft word document generated web page.
The cached google source code of his company website “Services” page:
The CY8300 IPSec high-performance security processor is not found in any reference in Google. No dates given on any of his project work, can all be assumed to be after 2005 since thats the last page update.
Cylink was involved in a 6.2 million dollar securities lawsuit.
DMC Stratex Networks, Inc.
is a blank domain – looks like the company merged with Harris Stratex, odd that they would totally dump the domain rather than redirecting it. Dates and locations seem consistent with the time frame of his post. The company has changed names and merged several times.
Both DMX and Cylink were government contract companies.
Yahoo has no information on STXN
Update: CNN reports that a federal official claims the pilot had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally. The FAA said the plane departed Georgetown Municipal Airport, north of Austin, about 9:40 a.m., and that the pilot did not file a flight plan.
Joe Stack, who owned a small plane, was missing…
The four-seat single-engine Piper Cherokee came in low, nearly hitting power lines, and was roaring at full throttle on impact, the witnesses said.
The tail number matched Stack’s plane, officials said.
Remarkably, though the plane hit a seven-story office building just before 10 a.m., sparking a 50-foot fireball and breaking most of the windows, only two people were injured.
AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) – Austin fire officials say one person’s unaccounted for after a small plane crashed into an building that houses offices of the Internal Revenue Service. According to CNN, The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.
The Federal Aviation Administration is reporting to CNN that the plane departed Georgetown airport north of Austin about 9:40 a.m. and was a Cirrus SR 22. The pilot evidently did not file a flight plan, according to reports. No flight plan is required because it is a VFR (visual flight rules) day, meaning clear weather.
An Austin, Texas, resident with an apparent grudge against the Internal Revenue Service set his house on fire Thursday and then crashed [no mention of stole] a small plane into a building housing an IRS office with nearly 200 employees, officials said.
Federal authorities identified the pilot of the Piper Cherokee PA-28 as Joseph Andrew Stack, 53.
Now remember, this is a VITALLY important detail.
If Stack stole the plane, then there is no way to tie Stack to the crime.
It would be impossible to know who was flying that plane if the tail number didn’t tie back to Stack, at least until the rubble was searched and his burned body was identified.
There is also no way the press could have found and tied the suicide web note back to Stack so quickly unless he was identified by the tail number.
If the Fed’s go with the “stolen plane” route, then the entire thing is wildly suspect.
In his rant, Stack never mentions what exactly his plan was, so if someone just randomly found the web page and reported it to the media, there’s still no way to tie it back to Stack without knowing who the pilot was, being identified by the tail number.
Also, if Stack was under financial duress, how could he afford a plane? A seriously old beat up Cherokee will run you around 30K, not including maintenance, storage, and gas which are fairly outrageous. If the plane was a Cirrus SR 22, you’re looking at a cool 250K for a used one. Thus, it makes the type of plane important.
Stack says he was wiped out and forced to dip into retirement savings before moving to TX, if you’re wiped out, typically you don’t keep a plane around.
Stack then says presently he had a boatload of undocumented income which caused him trouble with the IRS when he tried to report it. If its causing trouble with the IRS, then its not undocumented. And he must not have kept it in a bank or it would have been discovered. How did he pay for the plane, which he must have bought after moving out to TX, in order for his rant to make any sense?
Did he pay cash?
How long did he have the plane and when did he get his pilots license?
You know what else stinks?
Why did this guy set his house on fire?
1. Were his wife and kid at a hotel? Why where they there?
2. If they were in the house, why would he want to kill them?
If they were broke, what possible benefit to his family would it be to burn his house down?
Also, if you were going to kill yourself, would you bother to take any identifying information with you like a wallet? Wouldn’t you leave your wallet where your wife would find it so she could keep the credit cards and money?
Why burn that house down?
One of the witnesses Megan Riley say firetrucks and haz mats across the street from echelon bldg, at the time of the crash. She made a point to tell the reporter this fact, and as soon as she did, he ended the interview.
Why were they there?
In the note Stack talks about the writing process taking several months.
The creation date of the note clearly says the note was created 2 days ago and edited 27 times, the final time at 12:42 AM central time today.
I found this article interesting.
A professional suicide note investigator commenting on typical suicide notes.
Stack’s note contains multiple references to insanity.
Olsson’s experience found that faked suicide notes reflected society’s preconceptions about suicide victims being weak and unable to face their difficulties.
Those who forge such notes frequently use words such as ‘crazy’, ‘cowardly’ and ‘selfish’, but these are rarely found in the genuine items.
According to this reasoning, Sandra Weddell might well have killed herself, since her apparent suicide note made no reference to insanity or weakness.
Hey, you know what else is weird?
As I stated earlier, Stack never mentioned his family in the suicide note.
That fact alone is mind blowing.
How many people write suicide notes and don’t mention their family at all.
He doesn’t say he hates them, doesn’t say he loves them, doesn’t wish them good bye, doesn’t leave instructions to tell the kid, nothing.
I have a hard time believing that’s what a normal suicidal person does.
Never says his kids name, never says his wifes name, never says ANYTHING other that briefly mentioning he got divorced at some point in the past.
Never mentions anyone by name, not his bosses, IRS agents, no one.
The only people he mentions by name are politicians whom he’s never met in person.
more facts emerge:
Officials said they were evaluating an antigovernment manifesto posted on the Internet earlier Thursday, signed “Joe Stack,” which suggested he planned the crash. “Violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer,” the author wrote toward the end of a tirade against the IRS posted at 9:12 a.m. on a Web site registered to Mr. Stack. He described himself as a contract software engineer.
By late Thursday night, emergency crews had found two bodies in the wreckage, the Associated Press reported. Authorities said earlier that the pilot who crashed into the building was presumed dead and that one worker in the building was missing. Thirteen people were injured, including two who remained hospitalized for critical injuries. More than 100 IRS employees work at the building.
Thus we know a couple of key things, assuming the WSJ got its story right.
Stack’s body was not discovered until late this evening. – thus the ONLY way he could have been identified so early was by the tail number of the plane.
It also provides us with the time he made his post public.
This drives me nuts.
How the hell did the media know who he was and find his web post so fast?
Alex Jones is stating that a confidential trusted source informed them that the FBI knew about the attacks ahead of time.
Just received this in an abovetopsecret reply to a thread I started there.
Hey guys. I know Joe’s wife through a family member. I can answer all of your questions.
Joe got word of the IRS disaster (well, this round of it) earlier in the week. He seemed to keep it to himself and then it appeared to eat at him as he got more and more angry as the days went by. On Wed, he pretty much blew up and got violent, causing Sheryl to leave with her daughter (his step-daughter). They went to a hotel for the night. Days before that, she changed her email address to a private host instead of sharing his mail server (she never explained why, just that it was “effective immediately”). Clearly, things were not going well at home.
I’m guessing the reason why the family wasn’t mentioned is that they’d been married about three years, he wasn’t really bonded with the girl, and he was upset with Sheryl leaving. He then turned that rage towards the IRS and boom.
The money goes deeper than you think, though. Yes, it’s an expensive house (and was a nice one), but it was also full of new furniture and that delicious grand piano for Sheryl to teach with (she ran lessons out of the home; that’s the undocumented income). The plane, he’s had that for years. He wouldn’t sell it because they used it practically every weekend to relax and be together. It had a lot of emotional value to them all.
So anyway, they were at the hotel overnight and in the morning she went home and found the house on fire. She went into a neighbor’s house while the firefighters did their job. That’s where the “and a neighbor saved her” or whatever BS came from. She was just ducking out to have a breakdown.
The “theft” of the plane was from journalists. Because there was no flight plan, some dip# presumed it was stolen, unaware of any situation were one might not need to be filed. So, it was his plane all along and the hangar was even in his name (and another fellow, unrelated to this incident).
So … what else? This is just a case of a good guy having too much crap happen to him. He’s no martyr and there’s no grand conspiracy.
The conflicting accounts of the house fire and plane crash should not be surprising to anyone since it is commonplace, especially in cases involving traumatic incidents, to find wildly divergent eyewitness reports. That these unfiltered versions get reported without corroboration is illustrative of the current state of what passes for journalism these days.
As for the pilot’s financial status, it is not at all unusual for a person to possess high value assets while, simultaneously, be on the verge of bankruptcy. If his debts far exceed the value of his assets, then he would be forced to file in order to protect at least some of what he owns.
There are many people who have found themselves in this kind of precarious situation through no fault of their own due to illness or being un/under-employed. I certainly have sympathy for them.
This coward tried to game the system and then, when he got caught, tried to paint himself as some altruistic patriot, willing to sacrifice himself for a greater good. In reality, he lacked the fortitude to fight the battle he started and, even worse, attempted to take others with him.
We are better off with him removed from the world. I hope other like-thinking individuals learn from Stack’s gutless deed. He is going to be remembered as a weak loser who took the easy way out.
If that’s how you want to be remembered, then by all means, go find a plane. If not, show some courage and face the music.
Now that makes sense and answers my questions.
For some reason I believe the guy.