Randell L. Mills – A Living Legend, Greater Than Einstein and Tesla Combined

Being alive at the end of the twentieth century here on planet Insanity has afforded us a few special privileges in the observance of human history.  We’ve seen the birth of the microprocessor, the creation of the internet, and other technological marvels that have vastly improved the quality of the human condition for billions of people.

Unfortunately, even with all of our modern technological advancements, there’s still a huge number of people living in extreme poverty.  Most of the poverty can be directly linked to a lack of cheap and abundant energy.  According to the IEA, “Modern energy services are crucial to human well-being and to a country’s economic development; and yet globally 1.2 billion people are without access to electricity and more than 2.7 billion people are without clean cooking facilities. More than 95% of these people are either in sub-Saharan African or developing Asia, and around 80% are in rural areas.”

Even in many places with access to power, it’s not cheap enough or abundant enough to lift the population above the poverty line.  Access to energy is the defining limit on the ability of any given population to pull itself out of poverty by increasing its productive capacity.

All real wealth comes from the ground.  Wealth starts as raw materials that are transformed by human intervention into usable goods that improve the quality of the human condition.  Extracting and transforming resources from the planet takes a tremendous amount of energy.  The cheaper and more abundant the energy resources at our disposal, the cheaper and easier it is to extract and transform resources; which ultimately means cheaper and more abundant goods and services for all of humanity.

For most of human history, the energy to transform resources has come from our own manual labor, the leverage of simple manual tools, and of course – fire.  Even today, we live in what could still broadly be categorized as the combustion age.  We use combustion to produce the vast majority of energy on the planet, and it’s still by far the cheapest means of producing energy yet available to man.  We burn coal and oil to power our homes and factories, we burn gasoline to power our cars and planes, we burn crude oil to power our tankers and shipping; it’s all a big bloody burning mess.

Numerous wars and insurrections have been fought over the control of energy resources, and all the while, the power grid acts as a control grid that forces massive swaths of people to herd together into compact concrete jungles.  The human condition on planet Insanity is so intimately linked with the production of power that we use the same word to describe everything from politics to finance to the performance of an engine – Power.

Imagine what the planet would look like if every person had access to a compact generator that was capable of providing enough energy to power a small factory, while requiring no fuel, producing no pollution, requiring virtually no maintenance for decades, and being portable enough to fit in a small vehicle.  It’s hard to fathom because the potential for invention and mobility becomes nearly limitless.  People could live comfortably in the middle of the ocean or in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.  Homes could be flying recreational vehicles that never have to land.  Cars could be airplanes and airplanes could be transformed into space vehicles.  With such an invention, we could even colonize the inner planets of the solar system.

With such an invention, the power grid becomes obsolete.  Humans become untethered to the entire utility grid, water and sewage included.  Water could be pulled from the air or desalinated from the oceans.  Trash and sewage could be incinerated on demand.  Unlimited personal power brings with it virtually limitless potential.  Unlimited personal power brings with it virtually limitless freedom.

I’m telling you now that such an invention exists, and in the next year or so, it’s going to change the face of humanity forever.

millsDr. Randell L. Mills, a Harvard trained medical doctor, who developed this generator and the physical theory behind it, will be remembered throughout the remainder of human history as the single greatest being to ever have lived.  A billion trillion years from now, people will still be discussing his theories and his invention.  Mills invention is no less transformative than the discovery of fire.  It’s a far greater achievement than the combustion engine or the telephone.

In one fell swoop, Mills will have overturned the standing theories of physics, dismantled the power grid, put an end to virtually all air pollution, put an end to poverty, put an end to wars over energy resources, opened up the entire planet to human habitation, put a serious dent in the ability of politics to control people, and saved limitless lives in the future due to a lack of power.

To be alive at the same time as Mills is a cosmic treat. The man is a living legend that has yet to be recognized. Like all great transformative scientists before him, academia has viciously attacked him, his theories and his company, on both a personal and professional level. Mills is truly the modern day Galileo.  Like Mills, Galileo was viciously attacked by academia for his ideas, even though they are basis for all modern science today, to the point where Galileo spent the last days of his life under house arrest for scientific heresy.

Here’s what mainstream science has had to say about Mills and his work.  I feel compelled to copy and paste this here for posterity, because once Mills’ generator hits the market, these comments are sure to be flushed down the memory hole.  Brilliant Light Power (formerly Black Light Power) is the name of Mills’ company that’s producing the generator and doing the research.  The following is taken from Brilliant Light Power’s wiki page, which Brilliant Light obviously has no control over (think about that for a minute, a company that’s prohibited from editing it’s own wiki page highlights just how terrified academics are of Mills and his theories):

Robert L. Park

Since 1999 Robert L. Park, emeritus professor of physics at the University of Maryland and a notable skeptic, has been particularly critical of BLP. In 2008 Park wrote:

“BlackLight Power (BLP), founded 17 years ago as HydroCatalysis, announced last week that the company had successfully tested a prototype power system that would generate 50 KW of thermal power. BLP anticipates delivery of the new power system in 12 to 18 months. The BLP process,[35]discovered by Randy Mills, is said to coax hydrogen atoms into a “state below the ground state”, called the “hydrino.” There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull shit. The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains.” – Park[36]

Steven Chu

In 1999, Steven Chu, Nobel Laureate in Physics in 1997, said “it’s extremely unlikely that this is real, and I feel sorry for the funders, the people who are backing this”.[7]

Phillip Anderson

In 1999, Princeton University’s physics Nobel laureate Phillip Anderson said of it, “If you could fuck around with the hydrogen atom, you could fuck around with the energy process in the sun. You could fuck around with life itself.” “Everything we know about everything would be a bunch of nonsense. That’s why I’m so sure that it’s a fraud.”[6]

Wolfgang Ketterle

Wolfgang Ketterle, a professor of physics at MIT, said BLP’s claims are “nonsense” and that “there is no state of hydrogen lower than the ground state”.[8]

Michio Kaku

Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist based at City University of New York, adds that “the only law that this business with Mills is proving is that a fool and his money are easily parted.”[6] and that “There’s a sucker born every minute.”[7]

Peter Zimmerman

While Peter Zimmerman was chief arms-control scientist at the State Department, he stated that his department and the Patent Office “have fought back with success” against “pseudoscientists” and he railed against, among other things, the inventors of “hydrinos.”[37]

Forbes attacked him, saying, “This case has many things in common with other failed new energy technologies, including a charismatic leader who generates lots of press, claims of academic validation and criticism of expert skepticism, ample fundraising, and frequent reports of interest from potential buyers. What you don’t find are actual ongoing operation of a power plant outside of demonstration models controlled by the promoter.”

The IEEE attacked him, calling him a loser.  And of course, countless internet trolls have attacked him and his company over all the scientific forums scattered across the internet.  People have been banned simply for posting about Mills and his theories on sites like physicsforums.com and the Reddit science boards.  You can’t even discuss his theories on the major science forums without risking an immediate ban.

Academics typically don’t even bother commenting on theories that have no scientific merit, so when you see this level of vitriol over Mills’ theories, it stands to reason it’s being driven by fear, not by a genuine motivation to seek the truth.

I’ve stated numerous times on this site over the past decade that modern physics is fundamentally flawed.  It is not tied to reality.  Mills theory takes physics back to its roots.  It does away with all the imaginary particles and nonsense that make up the basis of quantum mechanics.  Mills theory is based on closed form classical physics, which treats the electron as singular entity that can be modeled and calculated in precise detail.  Mills theory allows for the precise calculation of molecular shapes and bond strengths, and will transform the way material sciences are conducted in the future.

Taking away all the imaginary particles and physics demystifies quantum mechanics.  With Mills’ theory, theoretical physicists are no longer needed, and their positions as the high priests of science are directly threatened.  It’s little wonder they hate Mills so much.  Eventually the theoretical people will be shunted to the side like most religions have been today. Make no mistake, theoretical physics is a religion, not a science. It’s incredibly hard to change people’s’ religious view points since they aren’t based on evidence or logical reasoning.

To put Mills work in perspective, the Tokamak ITER fusion reactor has had 14 billion dollars of public funding thrown at it with no results to show for it. Further, to quote wiki, “the ITER is not designed to produce electricity, but made as a proof of concept reactor for the later DEMO project.” So 14 billion just to build a proof-of-concept.

Mills has taken less than 100 million of private investment capital over less time than the ITER to go from theory, to concept, to design, and now on to actual power production, with less than a tenth of the resources.  Further, the ITER will obviously be abandoned after Mills generator goes into production, resulting in 14 billion dollars of public money being flushed down the toilet to feed the pocket books of academics and state contractors.  The academics and contractors are the real scam artists in this melodrama.  Perhaps that’s another reason they attack Mills with such ferocity, they are having a bit of Freudian projection going on within themselves.

So let’s talk a little bit about the generator itself. In simple terms, it works by reacting a very tiny amount of hydrogen with a silver catalyst and then exposing that reaction to an electrical discharge. When the hydrogen, silver and electrical discharge combine, the hydrogen atoms shrink, releasing a tremendous amount of energy in the process. Using Mills process, a gallon of water has the same energy potential of around 2000 gallons of gasoline. The amount of hydrogen needed is so small that the generator can pull the hydrogen it needs from water in the surrounding air. This enormous release of energy is then used to basically form the filament of a carbon light bulb.

The carbon light bulb glows so brightly from the heat that it reaches the equivalent brightness of over 2000 suns, with the potential to go even higher in the future.  The light bulb is surrounded by an array of special solar cells called concentrator solar cells that are able to harness the energy from this enormously bright light source.  These special solar cells already exist and are in use in solar farms around the world today.

Mills is projecting his initial generators to produce around 150 kw of power, with the potential for much higher amounts in the future, and the ability to chain multiple units together to provide huge amounts of power.  He projects around 600 or so dollars per unit in materials costs to produce the unit, with the unit weighing far less than a conventional gasoline engine at around the same size.  He also says production of the units can be scaled up to near infinite capacity, allowing a tremendous number of these units to be produced for next to nothing, using the same format as current LED production uses today.

Mills already has the “light bulb” portion of this generator fully prototyped and working.  Obviously that’s the hard part since the rest of the parts for the generator already exist from off-the-shelf suppliers.  Mills is projecting production units to be ready for delivery by the second half of 2017, with a fully prototyped working generator ready for field testing by the first half of 2017.  Once Mills rolls out that first generator, be prepared for a monumental media shit storm to hit the public.

You can read the latest press release from Brilliant Light Power here, and watch the “light bulb” in action below.

I’ve been following BLP closely for nearly a decade now.  I’m convinced Mills is the real deal.  Contrary to what Forbes claims, numerous independent labs have verified his claims.  He’s obtained funding from some of the wealthiest people on the planet, and he’s got a highly skilled team of engineers backing him.  He doesn’t need any more investment capital so he’s got no reason to lie.  Several university labs and independent investigators have replicated and validated Mills work:

It’s also worth taking a look at Brilliant Light’s board of directors.  These people don’t strike me as the type of people who are willing to throw their lives away over fraud charges:

H. McIntyre Gardner’s profile from Bloomberg:

  • Chairman of Spirit Airlines
  • Chairman of Merrill Lynch Bank USA
  • Chairman of Merrill Lynch Life Insurance Company and Transamerica Advisors Life Insurance Company of New York
  • Director of Isola Group, SARL
  • President of the Board of Trustees at the Princeton Charter School

James E. Canty J.D.’s profile from Bloomberg:

  • President and General Counsel at Clough Capital Partners
  • Associate General Counsel, Corporate Secretary, and Director of Investor Relations at Converse Inc.
  • Corporate and Securities Lawyer at Goldstein & Manello
  • Certified Public Accountant at KPMG

John J. Gillen’s profile from Bloomberg:

  • Global Director of Finance at Towers Perrin
  • Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President of Dayton Power and Light Co.
  • Partner, PricewaterhouseCoopers
  • Member of the Office of the Chief Accountant of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

Jeremy Hux’s article from Yahoo Finance:

  • Managing director and global head of clean technology investment banking for Credit Suisse
  • President of HCP Advisors
  • Head of West Coast Clean Technology for Morgan Stanley

Barbara A. Nabial’s profile from Bloomberg:

  • Senior Audit Manager with Deloitte & Touche

And let’s not forget Mills, who has a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Chemistry, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Franklin & Marshall College, and a Doctor of Medicine Degree from Harvard Medical School. He also did graduate engineering coursework at MIT.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what anyone may say about him.  He’s going to market, and he’s going to change the world.

If you’d like to learn more about the backstory to Mills incredible scientific achievement, a book on the subject was recently released by one of his former employees.

Update 10/28/16:

Pretty crazy update from BLP today.

They refactored the SunCell to use dual liquid silver metal injectors for the electrodes, which solved the problem of the reaction being so strong that it was blowing holes through solid tungsten electrodes in just a few seconds.

What’s pretty crazy is they are reporting that they can actually shut the power off to the electrodes and the EM pump; yet the reaction will continue in a self-sustaining manner. You can actually see this take place in the video.

BLP states, “It is predicted that with sufficient silver vapor pressure, the power will persist by a self-sustaining hydrino reaction. Moreover, as designed, when the cell is operated as a silver boiler, the EM pump power may be terminated as well such that the parasitic load is zero except for the power consumed in electrolysis of water to provide the hydrogen fuel. In fact, the power did persist at the same level for long duration after the ignition power was terminated (See sections of the run indicated by the ignition-off video captions).”

Here’s a look at the reactor:


Update 11/2/2016:

I just read through the latest BrLP presentation event notes and found their current planned development and production timeline. They are projecting the commercial units to produce 100 kW of power.

BrLP has contracted with Columbia Tech to have them do the prototype and manufacturing workups. CT’s Chief Technology Officer is projecting initial field testing of prototype units to take place in 6 months, with pilot commercial units available 6 months after initial field testing completes. Phase 1A design began on November 1st.

Masimo Semiconductor is responsible for creating the commercial photovoltaic converter comprising a denser receiver array of concentrator multijunction photovoltaic cells that will wrap around the black-body light source. Masimo’s Head of Business Development is projecting the photovoltaic array to be ready for the prototype field tests on time.

Looking at the slide notes from Masimo, they are projecting 15.5kW output for the first prototype, and 28.5kW for the second prototype.

Here’s Masimo’s published timeline:

-Week 1: July 27, 2016…. Masimo Semi currently under TPV Cell contract and drawings
-Week 10: Oct 19, 2016…..Masimo Semi currently under gDRA prototype development contract
-Week 14: Nov 4, 2016…..1-Junction Cells on GaAs & InP complete
-Week 16: Nov 18, 2016….gDRA Prototype 3-D model complete
-Week 24: Jan 13, 2017….gDRA Prototype (1-J) Single TRU complete
-Week 28: Feb 17, 2017…. 2-Junction Cells on GaAs or InP complete (requires contract)
-Week 40: May 7, 2017….gDRA Prototype (2-Junction Cells) complete (requires contract)

So looking at the notes, Jan 13, 2017 is a big day because that’s the day the first geodesic Dense Receiver Array will be completed (gDRA). The gDRA is the photovoltaic dome that wraps around the black body light source. Once that’s done, we could see a self-sustaining prototype generator produce power for the first time not too long after that. So perhaps a fully working prototype will be wheeled out for a public demo sometime near the end of January or in February.

Update 11/4/2016:

Brilliant Light Power (BrLP) released video of their October 26th Industry Day, which I just discussed above.

Video 1: Colin Bannon, Chief Technology Officer for British Telecommunications, discusses BT’s energy usage and their desire for a clean source of power. [BT is an absolutely massive telecom corporation, with a market cap of around 36 billion.  They are about half the size of Time Warner to put them in perspective.]

Video 2: Kert Davies, Executive Director of ClimateInvestigations.org, discusses energy production and global warming (feel free to skip this one.)

Video 3: Dr. Randell Mills gives a complete overview of how the SunCell works and the latest test data.

Video 4: Dr. Peter Jansson of Bucknell University speaks on the independent validation of the SunCell system.

Video 5: John DeCarlo of Columbia Tech discusses how their applied engineering team is working with BrLP on the prototype of the reactor assembly, as well as helping plan for mass production.

Video 6: Brad Siskavich of Masimo Semiconductor discusses their work on the photovoltaic cells that will produce power from the SunCell reactor.  This is a pretty interesting lecture that’s worth watching.  He’s projecting they shouldn’t have too much trouble obtaining a 100 kWs from the SunCell in the future, while their initial prototypes will produce around 10 to 30 kWs.

Video 7: BrLP’s Dominic Jones discusses their long term market strategy.


Update 12/14/16:

Brilliant Light put out a new press release yesterday detailing the advisory board that will be working to bring their virtually-free energy generator to commercial launch next year.

December 13, 2016 04:30 AM Eastern Standard Time

CRANBURY, N.J.­­(BUSINESS WIRE)­­ – The Advisory Board consists of senior industry executives and includes Colin Bannon from BT, Bill Maurer from ABM Industries, Ray Gogel, former President of Current Group and US Grid Co., Matt Key, CEO of Everynet and three additional executives from Telecoms, Finance and Legal professions.

“We searched extensively to identify advisors that can help us answer some of the big questions to support our SunCell® commercial launch next year” said Dr. Randell L. Mills, Founder, President and CEO of Brilliant Light Power, Inc. “This is a team of senior executives from future customers, partners and advisory groups that will help us shape what we offer and how we offer it as we prepare to go to market”.

Bill Maurer, SVP from ABM Industries Energy division said “it’s a great opportunity to be part of the team that will launch the technology that will change the way we think about energy in the future”

Matt Key, CEO of Everynet said “Brilliant Light Power has put together a very sophisticated advisory group and they have given us some big questions to consider. The SunCell® technology is an incredible invention and we all look forward to helping the Company in achieving its full potential by transforming the worlds energy markets as we know them”

The Advisory Board will meet monthly and will be advising Brilliant Light Power on its the commercial offerings, launch markets, potential customers and organizational structure the Company will employ to deliver them.

Update 1/2/2017:

CNN Interview

Update 1/13/2017:

BrLP just released a new video today of the SunCell operating above 3000° C in a commercial design. The camera attenuation was up to a factor of 10,560 times to avoid saturation.


Even small increments above 3000° C drastically increase the final power output of the generator because the spectrum shifts more to the right, allowing the TPV cells to harness more of the energy.

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  • QuentonQuale

    If the device does produce the white light as claimed, you would still need a rather large array of photo-voltaics to generate the electricity. From the demo, he shows a small area at the top of a dome above the burning plasma where they will capture the light to use as electric. Solar cells just aren’t that efficient to generate that much electricity using a small area, no matter how bright that plasma is. That’s why you need to cover an entire home roof to produce enough juice to power all the appliances in a home. I guess I’ll believe it when I see a device in full operation. If it does what they claim, I’ll be glad to plunk down my money to power my home on water. So far, all we see is something burning very brightly.

    • That’s where the solar concentrator cells come in. The latest concentrator cells can operate up to 2000 sun’s worth of power, producing an enormous amount of electricity when placed in front of a concentrated light source. They are working on versions that can operate up to 10,000 suns of intensity. Typically solar farms use large parabolic mirrors to concentrate the sun on to the cell.

      You can see some of them in action in this promo video:

      • Chris Henry

        Hi Michael, is this your article? I would really like to discuss Mills’ and his work with someone. I’ve watched all the youtube videos and I’m reading the book. It’s fascinating, and I think it’s legit. I don’t know who to share my excitement with. This is the greatest discovery in human history.

        • Yeah, I know, and I agree. This is bigger than the discovery of fire or the wheel. It’s insane.

  • thank you

  • Jay

    So, assuming that the SunCell devices work as advertised, the electric utilities, the coal producers, the oil and gas industries–the most powerful and connected fascist businesses worldwide–will simply fold up their show and go away?

    • Eventually. Land lines still exist even though cellular now dominates the market. Typewriters still exist even though computers and printers dominate the market. Same will go for this stuff too. It will take a while before all the energy systems are converted over to the SunCell, and it will take even longer for all the AC systems to be converted over to DC.

      I think we’ll see the same adoption rate as cell phones. It will be rapid, but it will still take a while. The existing power producers will just keep losing market share over time.

    • R V

      Mills is pursuing an open license business strategy that allows anyone to partner with BrLP including any current energy company that wishes to be a part of the future.

      • Jay

        How does BrLP’s open-license strategy differ from the nuclear power industry’s strategy? Or, to put it another way, if open-licensing can halt a full-on public relations assault on your business by your competitors, by the government, by the news media, etc., why did nuclear not adapt such a strategy? Nuclear power is the cleanest, safest, cheapest, most environmentally pure way of generating electricity that man has ever devised and yet look at the insanely irrational, screeching hysteria heaped on nuclear power.

        My worry is that should SunCell tech prove legit, the same entities that attack nuclear power will attack BrLP. After all, SunCells produce ionizing radiation in the X-ray region and lots of it. You’ll have angry “Mothers Against SunCells” protesters screaming at you with picket signs if you try to install one in your house/business. Their attorneys will sue anyone that tries to use a SunCell. Suffocating regulations will require frequent and expensive inspections that more than negate any cost advantage to using one. SunCell manufacturers will have to redesign and redesign again to satisfy the safetycrats’ ever-changing whims; making SunCells unaffordable. The pattern is already set.

        • I don’t think Mills has to worry about any radiation issues since he’s using a closed system with no radioactive materials. It’s not like it can spring a coolant leak and expose people to deadly amounts of radiation as we saw at 3 Mile Island, Chernobyl or Fukushima.

          Nuclear power isn’t the cheapest or most environmentally friendly way of producing power, which are the primary reasons it never gained any traction.

          • enantiomer2000

            Also due to their long lifespan and poor management, by the time they are ready to retire, nuclear power plants often “go bankrupt” and hand the clean-up costs to Uncle Sam.

          • Nutti

            Most of France is powered with nuclear. I wouldn’t say nuclear never gained any traction 🙂 It was useful for a while. Also deep space satellites use nuclear.

  • ohh good

  • albeit

    All real wealth comes from the mind, not from the ground. Which is why Japan is better off than Venezuela.

    • Japan is better off than Venezuela because Japan has mostly free markets and actually makes shit. Venezuela is fucked because of price controls, a central bank that recklessly inflates and state owned industry that forbids market competition.

  • Nutti

    Okey, the article was a bit juvenile but still summed it up pretty well. I wouldn’t bash the scientists so hard. It’s their job to be sceptical. That’s what science is about, finding the best and correct solution among millions of theories and experiments. You get to be sceptical when most ideas are always wrong 🙂 Still funny to read their pathetic comments about hydrinos and Mills. The wikipedia page for BLP is a disgrace. I’m ashamed.

    I’ve been following BLP for a decade and Randall is absolutely the real thing. No doubt in my mind. All is solid what he writes, talks, demonstrates. You just can’t fake 30 years of research and make it look believable. None ever succeeded on that except perhaps the quantum physicists 🙂 They succeeded because no layman could make anything out of it. Nobody could judge it out of the private circle of physicists themselves. It was so overtly complex and nonsensical. So they were able to study all these mathematical ideas for a century and it was useful. There was results. Lots of results. But it doesn’t make the theory right. It’s just a mathematical interpretation of the world and now is time for another better interpretation.

    Lots of scientists are actually very excited about what Randall is doing they just don’t shout about it or write about it. It’s not their project. Let Randall do the talking, he knows it much better than anybody else and yes it’s controversial. Ofcourse it is controversial. It’s trying to overturn hundred years of physics!

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  • Steve Keith

    What is a bachelor of arts in Chemistry? I’ve never heard of that.

      • Steve Keith

        Thanks. As a hard science, I was surprised to see it was an option. That page clears it up as intended for folks with less scientific aspirations.

        I absolutely love the idea that some unforeseen discovery, theory or, why not, wizardry, will yield some amazing device that solves the world’s energy problems.

        What is your tolerance threshold? At what point will you yield to the idea that BLP and Mr. Mills are at best misguided and at worst fraudulent? Repeated claims, committed dates and subsequent misses are SOP.

        FWIW, I make you this promise: If Mr. Mills ever produces anything scientifically relevant with practical application, I will come back to this page and give you a personal apology.

        How many years and how many missed commitments are you willing to let go by before you’ll admit you were wrong?

        BTW, I got tired of counting logical fallacies as I read your article. Whew. It must be very entertaining inside your head.

        • Likewise, I find it entertaining when people ignore multiple reports from independent validators all saying Mills’ process is producing enormous amounts of excess power.

          You do realize that there is no energy source known to man that can blow a melted hole through solid tungsten rods in a few seconds, right?



          I’d love for you to tell me what could have blown out those solid tungsten rods like that.

          Here’s a video of the electrodes melting:

          • Steve Keith

            1) Picture of a guy holding a piece of metal.

            2) Picture of nothing readily identifiable – presumably that same piece of metal installed in something.

            3) Video showing a bit of light and fire.

            None of the above is scientifically compelling in any way.

            Again, I’ll personally apologize when something scientifically relevant with practical application is produced by Mr. Mills.

          • Just to be clear, you believe the entire science staff composed of 30 scientists and engineers, the board of BrLP composed of numerous licensed attorneys and accountants, half a dozen independent university professors, as well as Mills himself, is lying about melting the tungsten? You don’t believe the rod that’s being held up in the photo is actually tungsten, nor do you believe the video of the tungsten rods being melted is legitimate?

          • Steve Keith

            You’ve given two pictures and a video with unsubstantiated assertions of facts not evident or presented by the given “sources.” Concerning your flawed logic, it only takes a few to deceive many. The perception or assertion of authority is not a logical argument without substantiation.
            Please provide me with ONE independent direct-linked source, and I will read it from start to finish.

          • No you wouldn’t.

            All you have to do is email one of the professors at their college email addresses and ask them if the report linked on BrLP’s site is legitimate.

            If you actually cared if this was legit or not, you’d do that without me even having to prompt you.

            Mills could park a generator in your driveway, power your home, and you would still be stomping your feet calling him a fraud.

          • Steve Keith

            Booker was easy to find.

            Easy now. I was completely sincere in my desire for some disruptive energy solution. An operational generator in my driveway powering my home would certainly appear to provide objective evidence of “practical application.”

            As popularize by Sagan, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

            Extraordinary evidence has not been presented.

            I have downloaded all papers from the site. It’s going to take me a while to digest them all.

          • “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” – that’s what I say when “scientists” claim that 99% of the universe is made out of matter and energy that we can’t see and can’t detect, or that space can bend into an infinitely dense point mass object, or that strange matter, which violates the island of stability in nuclear chemistry, is responsible for pulsars, etc.. etc..

            I find Mills theory much more believable.

          • Steve Keith

            Dark matter and dark energy are proposed hypotheses to explain things the standard cosmological model can’t – a far cry from a theory or a claim. Most references use modifiers such as “generally accepted, may, could, might”.

            Mills has presented “hydrinos” as dark matter. So he is CLAIMING that a hypothesis presented is not only an absolute fact but has made a ‘less than ground state’ CLAIM.

            He’s kinda doubling up on the “extraordinary evidence” requirements.

          • I think you are confused about what a theory actually is. Black holes, strange matter, dark matter and dark energy are most certainly theories and the scientists who present these theories also claim they are actually representative of what is occurring in reality.

            Mills claims of a lower ground state are backed up by more laboratory proof than black holes or dark matter is.

          • Steve Keith

            It is you who are confused. “THEORY” is often misused in journalism in place of “hypothesis.” A theory can’t exist without being tested and confirmed. General relativity is a theory because it has been tested and confirmed. Black holes are PREDICTIONS of a theory, and there is evidence of their existence. Dark and strange stuff are clearly presented as hypotheses because they represent the best description available to describe a phenomenon, or they are predicted by other theories but can’t be tested.

            The “proof” you allege is still very much open to interpretation.

          • You’re just plain wrong.

          • Steve Keith

            Your source supports my position, not yours. General relativity is the theory. Black holes are a prediction of that theory. Furthermore, they have been observed. Theory first, confirmed by tests and observations. Note the order.

            Conversely, dark and strange stuff was hypothesized to describe observations. Observation first, hypotheses presented to potentially describe the behavior

            I hope the difference is obvious to you.

            I also hope you are right about Dr. Mills.

          • No it doesn’t. Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me black holes are not a theory?

          • Steve Keith

            First, go read the wiki page you linked. I states my point explicitly. The existence of black holes is predicted by General Relativity. Second, General Relativity does not completely describe black holes. The theories you mentioned are not about the existence or lack thereof but seek to better describe/understand black holes.
            It’s clear I’m arguing with someone who has either little or no scientific training or acumen.
            Again, I hope you’re right, and I’ll come back to apologize. As it stands now, this interaction is like explaining science basics to a 7th grader, and frankly, it’s distracting me from reading supposed “extraordinary evidence.”
            I’m not going to respond to your tantrums anymore.

          • LOL – I’m reading the theories to you right from the scientific abstracts. Not my fault if you can’t deal with being wrong.

          • doug marker


            You are really wasting your time trying to debate with Steve Kieth. If Kieth was even the slightest bit sincere, he would have exhibited both the intelligence and the ability to do his own due diligence about Mills work and Mills theories and would not be using your comments section to be grandstanding by preaching skepticism where he repeats the tired old skeptics mantra of “you prove it to me, I don’t have to prove anything to you, and I won’t do my own deep research, why should I?.”.

            Must admit that I learned a while back that for a third party (like you or myself) to try to convince a skeptical other party (such as Mr Kieth) that the effort is essentially a ‘mugs game’ because as long as people like Mr Keith choose not to believe evidence that we place before them (such as the information about the tungsten meltdown) they can remain smug in their disbelief. Neither you nor I can prove anything here to people like MR Keith. He just plays ‘pigeon chess’ anytime you provide a salient point (as you tried to do re that issue).

            The real onus is always on each individual to reach their own conclusions based on their *own* ability to research a topic. Mr Keith is not going to give you the slightest credit for being right about anything. (Google ‘pigeon chess’).

            But, in Mr Keith’s defense, when he says there are flaws in your original article, I tend to agree with him that there appear to be several minor flaws, BUT, they are (all the ones I detected) both minor and quite irrelevant to the core of the story (i.e. one example – the Suncell ‘catalyst’ is said not to be Silver. Silver is used as a carrier of the catalyst.

            CATALYST QUOTE: >>The primary catalyst in all of Mills’ current work (including the SunCell) is exclusively nascent water (i.e. ordinary H2O in which the hydrogen bonds have been eliminated), also labeled “HOH”. All water in other phases (liquid, ice, steam, etc.) won’t work because the hydrogen bonds between the molecules destroys the affinity of the HOH molecule to the hydrino reaction. The catalyst has to be nascent water (HOH).<<

            Point above is that debating what the catalyst is is moot as long as the whole energy generating process is understood and works. I originally made the same assumption re silver but after some deep research and assistance, was put on the correct path. The matter is complex.

            My own view of MIlls work and the Suncell, fits very closely (close enough) to your pretty good all up summary. As for Mr Keith. Am sure he will achieve his objective and if that objective is pure skepticism, he is well on his way and proving his talent for it.

            Doug Marker
            Sydney Australia

          • Yeah I’m aware of the catalyst issue, I just don’t feel like explaining it in detail. As for Keith, it’s pretty obvious he’s here to troll.

  • Chuckles

    Everything about the project screams “Scam”. They were formerly Blacklight Power and have produced no working product since 1991. That’s 25 years this thing has been in development with seemingly very little progress. Researchers completed the Wendelstein 7-X Stellarator fusion reactor in 22 years, by comparison. This device was supposed to be far easier to produce and maintain than a solar farm, let alone a fusion reactor.

    The claims Mills makes are damned ridiculous. The claims he makes about the energy he can pull out of a liter of water are outlandish. Ludicrous. He claims to have refuted quantum physics and dark energy theories as we know them. Without having produced a single working product in 25 years.

    It’s ridiculous to say “Mills is GOING to change the world”, when he’s produced nothing. He either has or he hasn’t.

    • 1.06 billion Euros over 18 years with thousands of people participating in construction and operation, and no self-sustaining power plant to show for it. And you call Mills a scam?

      I’d say Mills has far more to show for his efforts, at far less cost and resources, than the people running the Wendelstein device do. Even if if Mills is a scam (which he’s not), the only people effected are private investors – unlike the Wendelstein scam, which looted taxpayers.

      • Chuckles

        At least the Wendelstein plant is actually able to produce an effect, albeit for a very short period of time. They weren’t scammers, and they delivered what was promised. BLP will only do demonstrations in a highly controlled environment, in front of no critical observers. The peer review process they went through is dubious at best. They shy away from third-party validation. They only allow self-published news articles to be released.

        One NASA study showed that the small amount of energy being produced was due to hydrogen and oxygen recombination, and there’s no clear process, according to our current understanding of chemistry, how a lower ground state of hydrogen is even possible. Most physicists who’ve commented on BLP suspect that it is not possible.

        He’s been fully funded since the 1990’s, and promised he’d have a commercially available model by the end of 2000. Sixteen years later and he has nothing. The best scams are the ones that manage to absorb as much funding as possible over as long a period as is possible. BLP, if it is a scam, is the perfect scam.

        The fact that BLP shares so many characteristics with common free energy scams is another huge red flag. Mills says some truly psychotic things. He claims to have developed a new standard model of physics, disproved the Big Bang, discovered what causes dark energy, and developed a special type of artificial intelligence that can pilot near-light speed spaceships around asteroids. Not to mention he uses ridiculous buzzwords like “Hydrino” in his theories. He’s conflating a hydrogen atom with subatomic particles. He’s a bullshitter with an over-inflated ego, that much is almost undeniable.

        He keeps posting pictures of tungsten rods that’ve been melted by the “intense heat” that had come from his reactor. In addition, he also claims to be trying to collect energy with solar cells inside of his reactor. That’s possibly the most inefficient reactor ever. His current energy converter, he claims, runs at 35% efficiency, but he’s apparently failed to realize that steam turbines run at 50% efficiency, and could also fix his overheating issue. How could he miss something so blatant? Something’s very wrong with the mechanics behind his device.

        Also, he didn’t go to get his theories peer reviewed first, as is standard with new scientific discoveries, but immediately began chasing investors. That’s another major energy scam red flag.

        You should read this article by Scott Aaronson: http://www.scottaaronson.com/writings/doofusino.html

        • doug marker


          In a scientific and logical debate, it is bluntly ‘illogical’ to fall back on this hollow argument that you used QUOTE “promised he’d have a commercially available model by the end of 2000. Sixteen years later and he has nothing”.

          How does an inventor’s inability to divine the future relate to any subsequent documented progress towards his goal ?. It doesn’t, it is a strawman argument.

          Have you *ever* tried to invent something radically new and predict to others how quickly you will achieve your goal ?. IMHO clearly not else you would never make such a ridiculous argument. For those of us who have been through such cycles, we rarely get it right and are usually out by orders of magnitude of time. Add to that (in the MIlls case) a revolutionary scientific advance and your argument is meaningless. All you are arguing is that some inventors are not good at predicting the speed of new advances ! – not very enlightening or insightful !.

          As for this unhelpful and really idiotic remark *you* posted “Mills says some truly psychotic things. ” – I seem to recall that even Niels Bohr was accused of making questionable assertions in regard to the superposition state of a wave and particle and even Schrodinger and Einstein worked on the cat-in-the-box ‘paradox’ not to support Bohr, but to ridicule it!. Also, I prefer Feynman’s assertion (requoted) that “Anyone who says that they understand Quantum Mechanics does not understand Quantum Mechanics”.

          There are some of us who have done enough homework on Quantum theories and on MIlls theories, to consider that Mills really may have a more enlightened and CP view than those Quantum ideas cemented into the Copenhagen Interpretation of sub-atomic matter.

          It may be that MIlls has at last provided an answer to those teachers of Quantum theories who when challenged about the many flaws in it, reply “Shut up and calculate” (and this is not a joke – it was what I heard from the Dean of Science when asked if Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle might one day be shown to be obsolete).

          What we can both conclude though, is that Mills work does polarize people. For those of us who believe we have done good research, we can be stunned by the bluntly offensive remarks made by others (such as yourself), who clearly don’t do their own research but piggy back off other people’s often offensive remarks.

          If you can’t reach a conclusion of your own from 1st principles, please don’t peddle other people’s mostly obsolete bile. Just show maturity and stay out of it.


          Doug Marker
          Sydney Australia.

          • Chuckles

            There’s nothing “bluntly illogical” about it. He’s taken decades to deliver nothing when he promised it’d be done so long ago. It doesn’t absolutely mean that he’s a scammer, but it does increase the probability significantly. He blows past promised deadlines without the slightest explanation. Every model redesign of his product just seems to be some farce designed to create renewed attention in what appears to be a stale free-energy scam.

            Offensive? You’re saying the most important aspect of the things I’m saying is that they’re offensive? By all means, donate your life savings to what very well could be a free energy scam and keep your head firmly planted in the sand. Anything to keep your feelings from being hurt by a stranger on the internet. Dear lord.

            His inability to divine the future is not the topic here. His inability to deliver an energy production method that was touted as “easier to produce and maintain than a solar farm” is the topic here. It’s a massive red flag.

            In Mills’s own words, the “mechanic either exists or it doesn’t”. There is no in-between.

            This isn’t the delay experienced by most inventors. Far from it. He promised he’d have a commercially available model by 2000. One of his lead researchers said something to the effect of, “The science is there. Now the talk is about commercial applications”. 16 years later, there is no hint of third-party validation of the science they claimed was there. And there’s no hint of commercial applications, despite Mills’s claim that there would be a working commercial facility running by 2012, than by 2013. There is no hint of an attempt ever being made to open one. This project has been in development hell for 25 years! WITH NO EVIDENCE TO BACK ITSELF UP! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!

            In Carl Sagan’s words, “But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.”

            Of all things illogical, claiming that “because Niels Bohr was called crazy and turned out to be right, and Mills is called crazy, therefore Mills must be right” is perhaps the MOST illogical and inherently fallacious argument possible.

            If Mills is right, to which there is no credible evidence, it would invalidate an incredible amount of models which, now, have a lot of predictive validity. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So far, the attempt at producing extraordinary proof has been an absolute failure. A 25-year-long, capital-consuming failure. And if Mills’s mechanic is there, why, then, would it be a failure? Again, like Mills says, “The mechanic is either there or it isn’t”.

          • doug marker

            IMHO you are talking in circles. You argue against your own point then restate it.

            Time to deliver based on predicting an unknown future is *no* argument at all !. It only provides a guide to the ability of the person in question to predict the unknown and anyone who has industry experience knows that it is easy to make optimistic guesses. In fact when one is seeking funding, the temptation to be overly optimistic when added to all other factors, is overpowering. IMHO you simply fail to make a sensible case and also IMHO you can’t see why.

            As to no evidence ! – who says so ? – you ?. Because there are many of us who consider the opposite is true. So we look at remarks like that and think here is another grand-stander who clearly can’t read or won’t try. The material is there in bucket loads.

            This remark of yours is nothing but offensive waffle “The claims he makes about the energy he can pull out of a liter of water are outlandish. Ludicrous.” – How does anyone refute this stupidity ?. Only those who have done deep research can confidently say Mills has sound theories or he doesn’t. You coming out with such an offensive (and it is) remark only proves how offensive you choose to be.

            My guess is that your rants (which is exactly what they are) are really you reacting to the original story told here and the enthusiasm shown by the original author. Yes it can be construed as ‘a bit over the top’ but that of itself is *no* justification for being so offensive. IMHO Mills is not the idiot here.


            Doug Marker

          • Chuckles

            “As to no evidence for MIlls theories & achievements ! – who says so ?”
            You’re free to post any that you find. Mills, and by extension you, have the burden of proof. Complaining does not constitute evidence.

            “Are you actually proud to make such remarks ? – what did you image people would think of them ?”
            Being proud is besides the point. He claims he can generate a million watts from the amount of water that can fit in a coffee cup. Which, I might add, makes absolutely no sense because wattage is a measure of charge per second. A stick of dynamite generates more than that, technically. It contains approx. 2 MJ which it releases in about a millisecond. Therefore, while the stick of dynamite is exploding, it generates approx. 2,000,000 watts. Twice as much as the supposed free-energy device.

            By saying he can generate “a million watts from the volume of a coffee cup” (his words not mine), he effectively says nothing. Wattage is a measure of joules PER SECOND. Energy density is measured in joules per unit of mass. Did the energy output peak at a million watts? Did he sustain a million watts of power generation for a specific period of time? Perhaps he was able to release ONE watt, in the period of a millionth of a second. Any of those could be the case. He, by giving his recorded output in watts, has effectively given NO usable info. Almost like he’s trying to impress investors while giving away zero meaningful information to scientifically literate people. Another major red flag indicating a free-energy scam.

            You talk like an Electric Universe nutjob, or perhaps a religious fundamentalist. You never link evidence, you dance around questions, and you seem to only respond with ridiculous insults and meaningless retorts about the way you think my arguments sound. That’s not how a debate works. That’s just garden-variety delusion. I’ve seen it before, and I’m seeing it now, in you.

            Claiming I’m on an “offensive diatribe” doesn’t change the reality of the situation. As far as I know, you know absolutely nothing about physics because all you’ve done is bitch about how “offensive” I am. Congrats. You’re less offensive than I am. But you still may very well be wrong.

            I respond with anger when I see people taking pseudoscience as fact. I did it with the EmDrive, I did it with Solar Freakin’ Roadways, I did it with the Electric Universe, and now I’m doing it with Brilliant Light Power. All of them are bullshit.

          • Questions like this “Did he sustain a million watts of power generation for a specific period of time?” simply highlight your ignorance on this subject. You haven’t even bothered to watch or read any of the relevant materials presented before commenting.

            You’re not here to debate, you’re here to troll. I ban trolls.

          • doug marker

            And as for this ridiculous twisted item you posted QUOTE:

            ‘Of all things illogical, claiming that “because Niels Bohr was called crazy and turned out to be right, and Mills is called crazy, therefore Mills must be right” is perhaps the MOST illogical and inherently fallacious argument possible.’

            – Hmmm just who are you attributing that mangled quote to – not to me ? – there is only one person I can see here who might be called crazy – adding more proof with each post.


          • Chuckles

            You strongly implied it. “… you posted “Mills says some truly psychotic things. ” – I seem to recall that even Niels Bohr was accused of making questionable assertions…”

          • doug marker

            Hmmm, here we go again. It was *you* who posted “Mills says some truly psychotic things. ” – I >>REPOSTED<< it from your written words !.

            You can't get your facts straight and you deliberately re-interpreted what was actually said re Bohr into your own twisted version that did not in *any* way resemble what I posted. Then you claimed this fabricated and twisted misinterpretation was a direct quote from me !.

            You are way out of your depth and abilities. Each post just seems to digger the hole deeper.


          • Chuckles

            You didn’t even read my comment. “- I seem to recall that even Niels Bohr was accused of making questionable assertions…” is what I was quoting you on. You misunderstood what I was trying to say.

            Yes, I am aware I said that Mills said some truly psychotic things. And I’ll say it as many times as I must. Who’s twisting whose words now?

          • doug marker

            I knew exactly what you posted. Sadly you don’t and still don’t grasp the implications of what you post and attribute to who. Hence I am saying you are way out of your depth here.

            You summed your own ideas up very well in the last sentence of your other reply to me. I could not put it any more succinctly.

            Cheers Doug

          • Chuckles

            You effectively said nothing of any real value in that comment. It was meaningless. You’ve contributed nothing.

            Now would be the appropriate time for me to say that since you’ve said absolutely nothing pertaining to physics, and have only repeated “You’re out of your depth” over and over as if it were a valid argument, that you are in fact out of your depth because you’re using vague, meaningless retorts to avoid actually saying anything of value or intellectual merit. I see right through you.

  • “there is no state of hydrogen lower than the ground state”

  • douglas gray

    Between the time of demonstration of concept (1903 Wright Brothers) to the first commercial flight between cities (1914), eleven years. Assuming a successful proof of concept, how long before mass production? Six months? Six years? Sixteen years?

    • Read the article. About 1 year to mass production. 6 months to finish prototype testing.

      • douglas gray

        I sincerely hope you are right, but having followed this story for some time, as well as others, the history is that getting it reliable enough for mass market takes a lot longer than many inventors suppose. I deeply respect and admire Mills but these inventors do not have experience developing something for a larger market.

        • Read the article. That’s why he has an advisory board with the skills necessary to take them to market.

  • its good

  • My worry is that should SunCell tech prove legit, the same entities that attack nuclear power will attack BrLP. After all, SunCells produce ionizing radiation in the X-ray region and lots of it. You’ll have angry “Mothers Against SunCells” protesters screaming at you with picket signs if you try to install one in your house/business. Their attorneys will sue anyone that tries to use a SunCell. Suffocating regulations will require frequent and expensive inspections that more than negate any cost advantage to using one. SunCell manufacturers will have to redesign and redesign again to satisfy the safetycrats’ ever-changing whims; making SunCells unaffordable. The pattern is already set.

    • The radiation can’t make it through a sheet of glass, let alone the reactor housing.